Swimming platform

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   I was getting set to box my mast in, but having read johna nd brads comments I will pause for thought.

What is the alternative you are considering Brad, I have wrapped my mast in headlining, with a velcro seal so I can take it off, but need to think more on the hole in the roof if I am not going to box in now.

Charlie.

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Charlie Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Lieutenant Commander Joined: 06 April 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 62	Post Options Post Reply Quote Charlie Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 May 2007 at 08:31
	I was getting set to box my mast in, but having read johna nd brads comments I will pause for thought. What is the alternative you are considering Brad, I have wrapped my mast in headlining, with a velcro seal so I can take it off, but need to think more on the hole in the roof if I am not going to box in now. Charlie.

leemind Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Commander Joined: 27 February 2006 Status: Offline Points: 117	Post Options Post Reply Quote leemind Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 May 2007 at 10:17
	Blimy, I thought it was just me that had a leaky boat. I've had quite a few different leaks some of which have gradually been sorted, others that haven't. My mast is boxed in (as standard I thought on the 461) so it took me a while to realise water was coming in there. Hanse UK put a ring of Sika above the rubber seal and that seems a lots better, though I think some still comes down the inside of the mast, and there is not a lot we can do about that. It does seem like the reduction in price from the 461 -> 470 may have been a the expense of quality though. (IMHO of course) Oh and to keep it 'on topic' - I wish I had known the diesel overflow exited out on to the swimming platform... filled her up for the first time only to discover a few days later that diesel had overflowed all over the platform and that rope and drained over the transom... nice

John Allison Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Rear Admiral Joined: 23 November 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 742	Post Options Post Reply Quote John Allison Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 May 2007 at 15:18
	Re water coming down inside mast. If you check your's out you might find there is a foam plug across the mast section just level with the spare spinnaker exit sheave. Halyards and cables run up through it via conduit. It may not stop all water, but it should stop most. We simply sealed the top of the boot with self amalgamating tape and seems we're pretty watertight now. Cheers JOHN Edited by John Allison - 15 May 2007 at 15:20
	No longer a Hanse owner - but loved the one we had!

John Heath Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Sub Lieutenant Joined: 24 February 2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 3	Post Options Post Reply Quote John Heath Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 May 2007 at 19:09
	Hi the mast leak I have is water running down the outside I havent looked to see if its coming from the inside as well we found that the mast necking seal ie the rubber bit clamped under the aluminium upper plate leaked and you can see daylight looking up we found that the retaining cap screws have shanks and bottomed out preventing the seal to be clamped so squoshing the rubber seal we have changed the cap screws for fully threaded and this has alowed the top ring to be pulled down tight and are about to hose test it all again, I would have thought that the manufacturers could have got something as simple as this right and the guys stepping the mast should have picked this up.

J Guthrie Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Sub Lieutenant Joined: 15 April 2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 9	Post Options Post Reply Quote J Guthrie Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 May 2007 at 13:36
	Hi I've got a new 470 and I've found it quite easy to lift the platform using a boat hook on the small bit of webbing attached to the platform As its come up past the vertical it stays in place quite happily until I pull the chord inside the lazarette to secure it. The problem I've got is that the platform does not currently go all the way down as the bottom edge and the hull meet before it gets to the horisontal - does anyone else have this issue? At the moment Hanse are being very slow to address this issue so if anyone from Hanse is reading this can you please sort the problem out pronto as I've had the boat for several weeks now and have not been able to use the platform!! Best wishes Jonathan

John Allison Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Rear Admiral Joined: 23 November 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 742	Post Options Post Reply Quote John Allison Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 May 2007 at 16:35
	Hi Jonathon, If you are thinking of swimming off the back with current UK weather, maybe Hanse are doing you a favour in not moving faster to fix the alignment issue........... JOHN
	No longer a Hanse owner - but loved the one we had!

J Guthrie Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Sub Lieutenant Joined: 15 April 2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 9	Post Options Post Reply Quote J Guthrie Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 17 May 2007 at 08:47
	Very true, but chucking my 78 old father into the dinghy from deck level is a sight to behold. Jonathan

tobo Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Captain Joined: 01 February 2006 Location: Switzerland Status: Offline Points: 263	Post Options Post Reply Quote tobo Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 May 2007 at 17:24
	Attention: plattform ladder half broken after two uses! I don't know if this happened to others too, but it is very dangerous!! (Beeing used in Croatia not UK!, Water temp. 20 C) Edited by tobo - 27 May 2007 at 17:30
	Thomi

Brad McMaster Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Commadore Joined: 27 September 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 383	Post Options Post Reply Quote Brad McMaster Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 May 2007 at 20:10
	Oh dear, i hope this is being sorted? Has the factory admitted responsibility? Is it something that we should all expect to happen?? B
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tobo Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Captain Joined: 01 February 2006 Location: Switzerland Status: Offline Points: 263	Post Options Post Reply Quote tobo Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 May 2007 at 19:38
	After one week aboard I finally found a good solution to close the plattform. First of all I replaced the hole by a block (s. pic) and then I made a 4:1 transmission. Inside the lazarette the line then goes down to another block and a cleat which I placed exactly in the line when you pull it. (But you have to open the lazarette).
	Thomi



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